Comments on: The State Of Heavy Metal And The Record Industry http://www.metalmartyr.com/the-state-of-heavy-metal-and-the-record-industry/ Heavy Metal News, Reviews & Opinions Sat, 21 Nov 2009 06:49:34 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Scott http://www.metalmartyr.com/the-state-of-heavy-metal-and-the-record-industry/comment-page-1/#comment-2172 Scott Mon, 19 May 2008 17:19:25 +0000 http://www.metalmartyr.com/the-state-of-heavy-metal-and-the-record-industry/#comment-2172 Metallica drank blood? Metallica drank blood?

]]> By: Death metal vocalist http://www.metalmartyr.com/the-state-of-heavy-metal-and-the-record-industry/comment-page-1/#comment-2168 Death metal vocalist Mon, 19 May 2008 15:50:08 +0000 http://www.metalmartyr.com/the-state-of-heavy-metal-and-the-record-industry/#comment-2168 ... You all need to be more open minded. With all due respect, Metallica is a bunch of old men. Do you think they are going to have long hair and drink blood forever. Metallica was a ideal. People loved that. Freedom of music, sex, drugs, living young and wild. Its silly to hate them for growing up. Maybe you should too. … You all need to be more open minded. With all due respect, Metallica is a bunch of old men. Do you think they are going to have long hair and drink blood forever. Metallica was a ideal. People loved that. Freedom of music, sex, drugs, living young and wild. Its silly to hate them for growing up. Maybe you should too.

]]> By: Scott http://www.metalmartyr.com/the-state-of-heavy-metal-and-the-record-industry/comment-page-1/#comment-254 Scott Sat, 20 Oct 2007 00:00:22 +0000 http://www.metalmartyr.com/the-state-of-heavy-metal-and-the-record-industry/#comment-254 Once again, well said, Milander. I write whats on my mind. A little off subject, The problem I see with a lot of metal blogs is that they mainly write reviews and post BS news. While I like to post relevant news I also like to write thought out posts, not some robotic BS. I like to get people thinking and adding their opinion. I don't expect everyone to agree with what I say and I'm always open to constructive criticism. Back to the subject. Everyone has great and valid points and I do appreciate everyones input even if I get offended by some of it...thats life. With the internet and the capability of networking around the world the possibilities for bands to promote themselves is unlimited. I am just starting to find "Local" bands that deserve more publicity and putting them out there a bit more. I would love to hear what you have to offer. Thanks. Once again, well said, Milander. I write whats on my mind. A little off subject, The problem I see with a lot of metal blogs is that they mainly write reviews and post BS news. While I like to post relevant news I also like to write thought out posts, not some robotic BS. I like to get people thinking and adding their opinion. I don’t expect everyone to agree with what I say and I’m always open to constructive criticism.

Back to the subject. Everyone has great and valid points and I do appreciate everyones input even if I get offended by some of it…thats life. With the internet and the capability of networking around the world the possibilities for bands to promote themselves is unlimited. I am just starting to find “Local” bands that deserve more publicity and putting them out there a bit more. I would love to hear what you have to offer. Thanks.

]]> By: Milander http://www.metalmartyr.com/the-state-of-heavy-metal-and-the-record-industry/comment-page-1/#comment-253 Milander Fri, 19 Oct 2007 23:33:34 +0000 http://www.metalmartyr.com/the-state-of-heavy-metal-and-the-record-industry/#comment-253 Greg, scott you have both made good valid points. To Greg; nice comment, my head was nodding in agreement with most of what you say however if you expect great writing then avoid blogs. To Scott; loved the post and agree totally, metal will never die, it is the root man. Writing is a chore and is never pleasant, best I can say is practise makes perfect. Respect to both of you. On the topic however, have you not been seeing the direction it is taking now re: music companies and agents and new groups? We (yes, I'm in a group) sell and publicise ourselves on-line, we use word of mouth, the P2P sites, we give our music away to get as large a fan base as possible and then we TOUR. Bums on seats that's where the money is (alongside promotional shit, T-shirts, patches, mags, posters etc...). That is the future and you don't need a company pushing you, publicising you... FFS last place we want to be is on f*****g breakfast TV plugging out new album, hell half our fans don't even get out of bed until two in the afternoon bless 'em. :) Oh yeah, metallica stopped being metal just after "ride the lightning".... fuc*ers cut their hair short too, that is selling out, just a bunch of suits who can play guitar now. MAN, I could rant about metallica right about now.. but I won't.... *whispers chill dude to self* rock on guys, peace out Greg, scott you have both made good valid points.

To Greg; nice comment, my head was nodding in agreement with most of what you say however if you expect great writing then avoid blogs.

To Scott; loved the post and agree totally, metal will never die, it is the root man. Writing is a chore and is never pleasant, best I can say is practise makes perfect.

Respect to both of you.

On the topic however, have you not been seeing the direction it is taking now re: music companies and agents and new groups? We (yes, I’m in a group) sell and publicise ourselves on-line, we use word of mouth, the P2P sites, we give our music away to get as large a fan base as possible and then we TOUR. Bums on seats that’s where the money is (alongside promotional shit, T-shirts, patches, mags, posters etc…). That is the future and you don’t need a company pushing you, publicising you… FFS last place we want to be is on f*****g breakfast TV plugging out new album, hell half our fans don’t even get out of bed until two in the afternoon bless ‘em. :)

Oh yeah, metallica stopped being metal just after “ride the lightning”…. fuc*ers cut their hair short too, that is selling out, just a bunch of suits who can play guitar now. MAN, I could rant about metallica right about now.. but I won’t….

*whispers chill dude to self*

rock on guys, peace out

]]> By: Scott http://www.metalmartyr.com/the-state-of-heavy-metal-and-the-record-industry/comment-page-1/#comment-252 Scott Fri, 19 Oct 2007 13:44:50 +0000 http://www.metalmartyr.com/the-state-of-heavy-metal-and-the-record-industry/#comment-252 You know, after reading my post through again, twice, I take back what I previously posted. Perhaps the article is a bit of a mess but it gets the point across and I shouldn't have to blatently state the fact that the record labels sign potential money makers, I think thats obvious. What I think I'm clearly stating in the article is that they do it much more frequently than they used to and with little regaurd to the longevity of the band. They are going for a lot of bands they will make them a small amount of money and not a few bands that will make them a great amount of money in a longer time period. On another note, I, like 99% of the bloggers out there have no professional writing experience so I think I do pretty well. You know, after reading my post through again, twice, I take back what I previously posted. Perhaps the article is a bit of a mess but it gets the point across and I shouldn’t have to blatently state the fact that the record labels sign potential money makers, I think thats obvious. What I think I’m clearly stating in the article is that they do it much more frequently than they used to and with little regaurd to the longevity of the band. They are going for a lot of bands they will make them a small amount of money and not a few bands that will make them a great amount of money in a longer time period.

On another note, I, like 99% of the bloggers out there have no professional writing experience so I think I do pretty well.

]]> By: Scott http://www.metalmartyr.com/the-state-of-heavy-metal-and-the-record-industry/comment-page-1/#comment-247 Scott Fri, 19 Oct 2007 00:13:20 +0000 http://www.metalmartyr.com/the-state-of-heavy-metal-and-the-record-industry/#comment-247 Damn It Greg...your right. It is all over the place. I have a tendency to do that when I'm venting and I totally missed the point of stating the potential to make money for the record label. I need to learn to proof read more often. Damn It Greg…your right. It is all over the place. I have a tendency to do that when I’m venting and I totally missed the point of stating the potential to make money for the record label. I need to learn to proof read more often.

]]> By: Greg http://www.metalmartyr.com/the-state-of-heavy-metal-and-the-record-industry/comment-page-1/#comment-246 Greg Thu, 18 Oct 2007 23:57:26 +0000 http://www.metalmartyr.com/the-state-of-heavy-metal-and-the-record-industry/#comment-246 While I agree with the outcome of record labels signing crap bands, I don't agree with this logic. Before I get to this, I will agree with Douglas about Selloutica. I must have owned Master of Puppets 50 times over, and then they go after kids for downloading. They're crap anyways, just look at St. Anger. I won't ever give those sellouts another dime. But back to the issue, the author is venting and needs to focus his point, this article is all over the place. Record companies never sign a band because they're "good", or because they have talent. They get signed because they have the potential to make money for the label. That's it. Nothing more. The reason you're hearing so much crappy metal is because every emo-screamo band like Chemical Romance has a huge market following at mall stores like Hot Topic, and is trendy. Trends dictate signings, and all the bands you're hearing now is just a reflection of what's selling. It's a lame, redundant circle until it burns out and another trend comes along. There's really not much more to the record industry than that. But remember, fan support makes or breaks a band. Slayer has been going strong and kicking ass for over 20 years, and every record has gone at least gold without any radio support. While I agree with the outcome of record labels signing crap bands, I don’t agree with this logic.

Before I get to this, I will agree with Douglas about Selloutica. I must have owned Master of Puppets 50 times over, and then they go after kids for downloading. They’re crap anyways, just look at St. Anger. I won’t ever give those sellouts another dime.

But back to the issue, the author is venting and needs to focus his point, this article is all over the place. Record companies never sign a band because they’re “good”, or because they have talent. They get signed because they have the potential to make money for the label. That’s it. Nothing more. The reason you’re hearing so much crappy metal is because every emo-screamo band like Chemical Romance has a huge market following at mall stores like Hot Topic, and is trendy. Trends dictate signings, and all the bands you’re hearing now is just a reflection of what’s selling. It’s a lame, redundant circle until it burns out and another trend comes along. There’s really not much more to the record industry than that.

But remember, fan support makes or breaks a band. Slayer has been going strong and kicking ass for over 20 years, and every record has gone at least gold without any radio support.

]]> By: Scott http://www.metalmartyr.com/the-state-of-heavy-metal-and-the-record-industry/comment-page-1/#comment-238 Scott Thu, 18 Oct 2007 00:15:24 +0000 http://www.metalmartyr.com/the-state-of-heavy-metal-and-the-record-industry/#comment-238 well said, Doug. What I liked about peer to peer sharing was that you could find stuff that was almost impossible to find in any store. I can understand why bands these days don't like free downloads but back in the days that Metallica was bitchin about it they were raking in the money. Unfortunately for a lot of good bands, downloading has screwed them out of a lot of royalty money. The royalties may not be much but add all those little numbers up and you have a fat chunk of change. This is why a lot of bands these days are going for their own independent labels and such, so THEY can have control cause too many times too often the record labels screw the bands out of a lot of money and this I believe makes the bands more money hungry. well said, Doug. What I liked about peer to peer sharing was that you could find stuff that was almost impossible to find in any store.

I can understand why bands these days don’t like free downloads but back in the days that Metallica was bitchin about it they were raking in the money. Unfortunately for a lot of good bands, downloading has screwed them out of a lot of royalty money. The royalties may not be much but add all those little numbers up and you have a fat chunk of change. This is why a lot of bands these days are going for their own independent labels and such, so THEY can have control cause too many times too often the record labels screw the bands out of a lot of money and this I believe makes the bands more money hungry.

]]> By: Douglas Karr http://www.metalmartyr.com/the-state-of-heavy-metal-and-the-record-industry/comment-page-1/#comment-237 Douglas Karr Thu, 18 Oct 2007 00:00:34 +0000 http://www.metalmartyr.com/the-state-of-heavy-metal-and-the-record-industry/#comment-237 Investors call it 'diversifying your portfolio'. What the record industry is doing is to buy up every last piece of talent so they can try to maintain control over the industry. I, too, remember buying EP tapes of Metallica and Anthrax back in the early 80s as they were begging for people to come to their concerts. A decade later, I found my Napster account cancelled due to my sharing of Metallica... this after a decade of buying everything Metallica I could find. I haven't bought anything from Metallica since and I never will. I wish bands weren't so hungry that they sell their souls to this wicked industry. But I also hope they remember it's the fans that make a band successful. I look forward to more moves by such bands as Radiohead and Prince who find out that giving away their music leads to the real money... concert sales and the items people purchase there! Investors call it ‘diversifying your portfolio’. What the record industry is doing is to buy up every last piece of talent so they can try to maintain control over the industry.

I, too, remember buying EP tapes of Metallica and Anthrax back in the early 80s as they were begging for people to come to their concerts. A decade later, I found my Napster account cancelled due to my sharing of Metallica… this after a decade of buying everything Metallica I could find.

I haven’t bought anything from Metallica since and I never will. I wish bands weren’t so hungry that they sell their souls to this wicked industry. But I also hope they remember it’s the fans that make a band successful.

I look forward to more moves by such bands as Radiohead and Prince who find out that giving away their music leads to the real money… concert sales and the items people purchase there!

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